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Posted on Feb 25th, 2006 by Jordan : LightWriter Jordan
Hmmm... I'm wondering what this community is all about. And what I'm doing here. But since I like writing... OK, for those of you who want to see what my writing's about, here's an essay I finished today, even before I've released it through Enlightenment.Com: ----------------------- Dear David, Thanks for your persistence in asking me to first read and then comment upon Barry L. Beyerstein's Pseudoscience and the Brain: Tuners and Tonics for Aspiring Superhumans. (I must admit that I am curious as to the nature of your connection to Mr. Beyerstein, which is nowhere stated.) I would, indeed, like to offer my comments, which are below. (Be careful what you ask for ... you may get it.) I plan on publishing these comments in my next Enlightenment.Com newsletter. I hope you won't mind if I also include a link to Pseudoscience and the Brain in that newsletter. Let's get to it, then. On the one hand, I find much of what is in Pseudoscience and the Brain to be very valuable. From a personal perspective, I have long had substantial doubts about the value of brain/light machines and acoustic entrainment tapes and devices. While I have tried various types of these devices and programs, I have not found any of them to be consistently useful. Particularly with respect to brain/light machines, I long ago stopped recommending their usage (although I have continued to try new models from time to time). You'll note that, to date, Enlightenment.Com has never offered a brain/light machine through its online store. As Beyerstein correctly points out, there seems to be little evidence that these brain/light machines work as claimed (although they do put people in a minimally altered state that can be arrived at through many types of sensory overload and repetitive stimulation). Similarly, I agree that the field of acoustic entrainment devices and recorded programs is a hard one to pin down: much more seems to be made of the connection between brainwave entrainment (and hemispheric integration) and enlightenment (or even just stress reduction and better health) than can be substantiated. At the very least, there seems to be a great deal of overblown sales hyperbole and puffing going on both with brain/light machines and acoustic entrainment devices and recorded programs. So, first, I do want to thank Beyerstein. The factual part of his article is welcome, and those who look for shortcuts (as opposed to high-leverage practices such as meditation or rebounding) would do well to recognize early on that there are none. (As Robert Heinlein said: TANSTAAFL.) Beyerstein has potentially saved a great many individuals a great deal of time with his careful, well-researched analysis. On the other hand, however ... and this is a big however .. I find the overall tenor of Beyerstein's article to be unfairly dismissive and even hostile towards an entire realm of psycho-spiritual practices and techniques that unquestionably have great value for many individuals. To begin with, the very use of the term "pseudoscience" in the title and throughout the article connotes, if not denotes, the proposition that there is nothing of value to be gained in the entire broad realm of human potential and spiritual practices. Beyerstein admits that there might be some value in taking a half hour off each day to step out of the rough and tumble of modern life, but he implies through his very writing style and word choices that there are no specific techniques, practices, or skillful means that might greatly accelerate an individual's progress, evolution, and unfoldment towards higher states and stages of consciousness. (Note that I am using "states" and "stages" here the way that Ken Wilber does.) Similarly, I get the distinct impression that Beyerstein probably has no love for the human potential movement generally. Maybe I have read him wrong, and maybe this article is really just meant to be a narrow indictment of unsupported claims as to the efficacy of brain/light machines and acoustic entrainment devices and recorded programs. But I am wondering if Beyerstein might not also be justly accused of what Charles Tart (who Beyerstein cites in the article's bibliography) calls "scientism," both with respect to spirituality and human potential generally as well as allied fields of study such as parapsychology. (See http://www.enlightenment.com/media/interviews/tartall/tartclips/scientism.mov for a video clip of Tart speaking about this. Tart elsewhere defines "scientism" as "a rigidity and pathology of thought that takes the success of the physical sciences and their current findings as a total system of thought. It is called scientistic or scientism because of its resemblance to various other dogmatic religious and political systems, rather than having the continual openness to new data and ideas that proper scientific inquiry should have." Note, too, that the reason I bring in PSI or parapsychology here is because it is, in my view, the premier example of an area of inquiry where, despite what I consider to be unquestionable proof as to the reality of a broad range of phenomena, as laid out in Dean Radin's The Conscious Universe and other volumes, many so-called scientists will insist that PSI can't possibly be real and therefore will not even consider the data.) An example of Beyerstein's tone might help clarify my perspective. Beyerstein writes "From what then, might these satisfied customers have derived their subjective benefits? Can you spell P-L-A-C-E-B-O, boys and girls?" The use of the A-L-L C-A-P-S W-I-T-H H-Y-P-H-E-N-S here is a ridiculing mode of discourse which not only makes me take note, but which I ironically find to be particularly wrongheaded. I have long felt that most reductionistic scientists use the term "placebo effect" merely to put a label on something that they do not understand. Even if, as Science News recently pointed out, scientists are establishing that difference types of placebo effects are correlated with different types of neural pathways and brain systems - even if the placebo effect were completely mapped out with respect to its physical brain functioning - this would still not explain, in my view, why and how "the placebo effect" works and how it is "triggered" by human belief and intention. There is magic in the human brain/mind interface, just as there is magic in the way that mind and matter interact over a distance (PSI again), and the facile use of the shibboleth "placebo effect" adds nothing to our understanding but instead tries to bury the reality of this magic under a convenient and dismissive scientific label. Here's another example of both Beyerstein's tone, and his approach to matters that he may not be truly expert in: "Mystical philosophers assert that the purpose of meditation is to foster this receptive, content-free mode of consciousness as a route to the more profound reality that lines beneath the mundane one we normally inhabit. This assumes, of course, that there is some immaterial fount of absolute knowledge, external to the individual, that can infuse the worthy recipient with complete, instantaneous, and indisputable understanding of "all that is" (a decidedly dualistic position...). These are, of course, metaphysical assumptions that do not lend themselves to empirical adjudication." In this paragraph I find many misunderstandings typically put forth by scientists who, for the most part, are rank (and perhaps rankled) amateurs when it comes to matters such as meditation, mysticism, and human potential generally. That is (and forgive me if I tiptoe into the ad hominem here), just because Beyerstein may be a good scientist doesn't mean he is qualified to speak or write about mysticism and human development, because in all likelihood he has not had the requisite experiences nor done the requisite work. (In Wilber's terms, he has probably not followed the necessary experimental injunctions nor observed the consequent results.) Further, Wilber's notion of "inter-subjective hermeneutical verification" shows exactly how meditative inquiries and practices can still be the subject of true scientific inquiry (even falsifiable inquiry) even though they are not of a physical nature. Extended, material, and reductionistically physical, maybe not, but scientific (truly scientific, and not just scientistic) and empirical, certainly yes. Of course, the idea that there are higher states and stages of consciousness, that people can and do evolve by dint of their focused will and attention, may not sit well with scientists who reflexively believe that scientific discourse is irrevocably at the top of the heap with respect to the human quest for knowledge and experience. The scientific method is wonderful, no doubt about it, but there are means of obtaining knowledge (and types of knowledge) which are "trans-rational," which go beyond mere science and the thinking brain, and I'm wondering if Beyerstein takes these seriously at all. (I'll refer to Wilber one last time: his essay on the "pre/trans fallacy" is certainly worth reading and contemplating.) So, once again, I really do appreciate Beyerstein's overall take-no-prisoners analysis with respect to those who sell and unfairly promote meditation devices, brain/light machines, acoustic entrainers, and "smart nutrition" as shortcuts. There is far to much mushy-headed thinking among those who desperately want to move forward via simplistic shortcuts. But, I do not like - nay, I bristle at - the way Beyerstein appears to use his scientific knowledge (even if mainly by implication and innuendo) to then bash anything and everything that constitutes the realm of self-improvement, human potential, and spiritual practice. Like it or not, enlightenment is real, spiritual development does occur (there are more advanced stages of consciousness that can and have been reached to varying extents by many individuals), and human potential can be consciously and creatively developed and channeled. "That's nice, but do you have any evidence that it really works?" is Beyerstein's rallying call. Well, there is evidence that meditation of many different types actually does work; there is evidence that many different types of spiritual and physical and human potential practices and exercises make a tremendous difference in the lives of those who seriously undertake them; there is evidence that there are, in fact, higher stages of human knowledge and functioning that can be purposefully aspired to, cultivated, and achieved; and there is certainly good, hard evidence that mind and matter interact at a distance, that is, there is evidence that we live in - that we are an inescapable and integral part of - an interactive, PSI-is-real, conscious universe. I apologize if I have attributed to Beyerstein things that he doesn't actually believe in, or if I have wandered into the realm of the ad hominem argument here. But the tone and tenor of Beyerstein's article is, in my view, quite dismissive towards a much broader range of endeavors than the narrow focus on brain/mind machines and the like. There's nothing wrong with being a skeptical inquirer, but skepticism must also, like the Uroboros, be turned on itself by those who deny and decry all that which is currently beyond our limited scientific understanding. I would be quite open to publishing a response, if you or Mr. Beyerstein have one. best, Jordan Gruber, J.D., M.A., B.A. CEO, Enlightenment.Com
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Cynthia : realityshifter
4 days later
Cynthia said

I’m glad you’ve included a link to the Charles Tart interview at enlightenment.com! I’m not much of an expert on this topic of Barry Beyerstein, so if you have any links to help us Beyerstein novices out… that would be much appreciated! Or perhaps I could talk you into writing one of your wonderful book reviews? ;-)

Jordan : LightWriter
4 days later
Jordan said

Glad you like the Charles Tart interviews. He’s really a wonderful man, and a darned good scientist. As for Beyerstein, he is a skeptic, and works at Simon Fraser University in B.C. I don’t know anything about him personally, so let’s assume that he is a good man and really believes in what he is up to. I just think his world view is clearly too limited. Ken Wilber might not be for everybody, but I’d like Beyerstein to read him, and Dean Radin, and…

Well, you know the old saying: sometimes you just have to wait until the old generation dies off before new ideas can really take root. Let’s just hope we still have time to, as they say in Flash Gordon, “save the earth.”

Cynthia : realityshifter
6 days later
Cynthia said

Here, here! I keep wondering why skeptics at CSICOP focus exclusively on pseudoscientific claims, but do so in such a way that they ignore national policies and governmental hypocrisy? ;-)

Jordan : LightWriter
7 days later
Jordan said

Well, that’s just their “thing.” And I can understand it easily. Imagine you had the values of Spock, Isaac Asimov, and James Randi, and you really wanted to help people from hurting themselves by believing that there is “magic” in the universe as opposed to hard and fast physical laws. Problem is, the hard and fast physical laws, we now know, are … well … magic indeed when you look at them at the quantum level, or up the various scales to biology and then mind and then beyond. (Bruce Lipton’s latest piece in this month’s IONs magazine is well-done on this topic, but Wilber covers it as well in his own way.)

So, they don’t know that they are limietd, that they are being “scientistic” in Tart’s terms. They are unaware that they have stopped following the laws and mandates of true science. Stuck in a kind of inverted meta-paradigm, they turn their big brains towards, and get their jollies from, using the powerful lenses of science to “prove” that anything beyind what they’ve built those lenses for is necessarily, by definiton, bunk.

Bottom line is that they’ve been helpful in a few small areas, but their overall closed-mindedness, their lack of a truly open epistemology, renders their efforts interesting but ultimately useless to the greater collective. They will never convince most of us that PSI is not real because we know it is real. But one day, even the “narrowest” and most conservative of scientists will have to admit that the universe is “magic at a distance” in some fundamental respects.

At least, that’s what I think!

7 days later
BETH said

SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF:
I feel that the vote is in and has been in for quite some time.  (For me) it’s a given that science is limited and is stuck in an inverted meta-paradigm.  For that reason, I can’t help but question if it’s truly useful (or a productive use of time and energy) to “bristle” about it….(&/or to debate, restate, slice and dice) at such great length that which we already know & agree is limited.  PSI is real.  The greater collective therefore benefits much more, (in my opinion,) from focused discourse which informs, confirms and shines that light. 
            I concede that I’m being very simplistic, but then again, sometimes there is much to be said for keeping things SIMPLE.  I say, leave Beyerstein and the others to their closed-minded, narrow, limited lenses.  They will embrace higher truths and magic when they get there, not before then.  In the meantime, you are your own best evidence. (At least, that’s what I think.) 

Jordan : LightWriter
7 days later
Jordan said

Well, certainly I’m tilting at windmills here. But I *enjoy* occasionally tilting at windmills, More importantly, you know that Max Planck quote about “…after the old generation has died a new generation grows up accepting the new paradigm”? (badly paraphrased) Well, it seems to me that in order to help a new generation grow up accepting what we know about PSI as being real and valid, we have to present a counterpoint to the scientistic scientists. It’s John Stuart Mill all over again: in the free marketplace of ideas, the better ideas will eventually triumph.

Anyone, IMHO, with an ounce of sense can look at the data, especially the meta-analyses, and know that there is a real phenomena here, one that is further backed up by abundant personal experience (something like 3/4 of individuals, when tested, admit they’ve experienced some kind of PSI or ESP-type effect) as well as oodles of anecdotal info.

So, because they tend to be smug, I’ll admit that I like to go after arch-skeptics just a wee bit. But *we* won’t have to debate it, because *we* know that PSI is just the beginning of how reality holds together…

And thanks for yoru comment, Beth.

8 days later
BETH said

Points and counterpoints well taken.

“Well, it seems to me that in order to help a new generation grow up accepting what we know about PSI as being real and valid, we have to present a counterpoint to the scientistic scientists”.
              True.  It’s equally true to say that every individual of a new generation, by definition, is roughly 10 to 20 or even 30 years younger, yes?  OK.  Then, when working from that point alone, it is therefore fairly accurate to say, give or take, that it your essay will be “helpful” ONLY to the portion of a new generation that is informed & experienced (and yes, even old enough) to even have the first clue who Beyerstein is or what you’re speaking about.  Granted, there are rare individuals in every generation who are wise BEYOND THEIR YEARS, but I’m assuming that the wealth of information which you’ve shared in the essay is a reflection of 45 years of accumulated academia, extensive “spiritual” study, extensive reading, gradual awakening, trial and error, etc..  In other words, 45 years of LIFE.             As I read your essay, Jordan, I flashed back to my very first introduction to paradigm that was brand spanking new to me at age 14.  I was, at that time, a small town, sheltered little Catholic girl from rural Minnesota.  Truth be told, I wanted to be accepted by a group of older teens from the public school who were getting their feet wet in Eastern Religions ala The Beatles & their guru. Toward that goal, I went to a bookstore and picked, AT RANDOM, a few books that looked “cool” enough.  When I got them home, I only made it through the first 10 pages of “Siddhartha” when it became painfully obvious that the concepts of Buddhism were utterly beyond my frame of reference.  Frustrated but hopeful, I moved on to Ramdas, “Be Here Now”, (first edition).  Quite frankly, I was mesmerized by the “groovy” illustrations, but when I reached the page where it said, “The absence of DESIRE”, I knew for certain that I was nowhere even near it.  I had absolutely no desire to desire nothing, and therefore no clue what Ramdas was trying to teach me.  Intimidated beyond belief, I stuck both books in my drawer (and there they remained until I had a few more years of life under my belt.)  
                These many years later, that memory always brings a smile to my heart, Jordan.  Whether I realized it at the time or not, in these books the first seeds of my greater awareness had been planted.  Nonetheless, I think that you get the point that I’m making.  “Information is Power”, yes, but not until one has the fundamentals and foundation in place to build on.  Anything short of that is information overload.  
            Your essay about PSI is extremely articulate and speaks clearly to those who already get it and to your well read, INTELLECTUAL peers.   The challenge for all of us who wish to be “helpful to new generations”, however, is to to be ever mind full of “where they live”,…(i.e., to teach on a level that is NOT so far over their heads that we lose them).  There’s data.  And then there’s teaching.            Again, I tend to simplify, Jordan, but data and (effective) teaching are not necessarily the same thing.  What it really comes down to FOR ME, is this.  Like you, I sometimes enjoy tilting windmills.  Other times, I strive to pass on information in a truly effective, realistic manner.   Sometimes I get the two confused, but when I’m met with a blank stare, that’s my first indicator.          As parents, we learn this distinction every day in teaching our children.  When they’re infants, we know better than to start with everything that we’ve learned about germs and the hazards of swallowing dirt.  Instead, we start by teaching them not to lick the kitty or put their shoe in their mouth. After that, we teach them how to say the word “shoe”.  Later on, we teach them how to tie their shoes.With Blessings (and humor)  :-)BETH                  

Jordan : LightWriter
8 days later
Jordan said

Shoe enough, teaching at the wrong level is just never gonna work. And maybe you are right: this is one of my “pet peeve” areas, and I probably like tilting at windmills here. (All that scientific brilliance aimed at disproving that which is just drives me crazy.)

The question then becomes, it seems to me, how indeed do we teach important subjects at a variety of levels so that those who need to find can find at the level that they need… I get the point in the context of Ken Wilber material: I’ve been reading Ken for a while, and once understood most of it, but now he’s gone beyond me (I haven’t spent the time and energy necessary to understand Wilber V or whtaever he’s up to), and so a lot of the cutting-edge Wilber stuff is essentially meaningless to me now. If he could say somewhere, “here’s what this new stuff does; you don’t have to read it in detail, but the general point is X”… then I’d still be able to grok it and gain value from it… Interesting questions, these, as to teaching styles and appropriate levels of giving and taking and learning and remembering…

Thanks for making me think! – Jordan

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